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El problema de /r/mexico y mi experiencia en él

2020.09.24 01:17 strCdo El problema de /r/mexico y mi experiencia en él

Lo que inspiró esta publicación

Hoy Aluxxxe tuvo la paciencia de corregirme con datos que él mismo recabó, aunado a que se tomó el tiempo de estructurarlos en una tabla:
https://old.reddit.com/mexico/comments/iyc9is/bajaron_06_los_homicidios_en_2019_se_registraron/g6cgelj/?context=3
Véase que reconocí el error y agradecí el gesto. A ese comentario añadiré una disculpa, por cuanto sé que puedo ser bastante agresivo al expresarme, aunque nunca recurra al lenguaje soez. Realmente me había emocionado, ingenuamente, de que progreso en ese tema se había finiquitado.
Ahora bien, el tipo de intercambios como el de arriba, son los que en primer luegar me trajeron a /mexico. Con el ejemplo dado deseo dejar claro que no tengo problema alguno con reconocer faltas de la administración, faltas mías, ni mucho menos considerar lo que sugieran los datos duros.

El problema de /mexico

En este lugar algunos argumentan que es el bastión de la razón cuando, claramente, es principalmente una cámara de eco igual que /mexico4T. He experimentado con esta comunidad y la mía por buen tiempo ya y, es mi conjetura, que las personas tenemos una debilidad propia por las respuestas simples. Mi sospecha, es que es un mecanismo para aliviar lo aterrador que puede llegar a ser la aceptación de la innegable complejidad monstruosa de la realidad.
Ahora bien ¿cómo sé que algunos aquí tienen esa debilidad, igual que yo y cualquier otra persona? Empecemos por el tópico de mi reputación:
Una de las cosas que me han sido más llamativas es cómo algunos usuarios tienen un perfil de mi del que están completamente convencidos, sin tener prueba alguna de ninguna de sus partes. Hay algo que comentaba con mis compañeros de moderación de /vzla hace algún tiempo: que me sorprendía cómo las personas naturalmente tendemos a tomar como cierta la información que se ajusta a nuestro prejuicio (aunque no haya prueba) y que, lo que al final y equivocadamente nos hace creer que la prueba resulta innecesaria, es la circunstancia de lograr darle una ordenación lógica a la información recabada; como si fuera cierto que un cúmulo de evidencias pudiera presentarse solo en única ordenación lógica, por vez, en el plano real. Esto, por supuesto, es totalmente falso (incluso si la evidencia se recabara sin sesgo alguno) y se enseña en cualquier escuela de derecho, especialmente al adentrarse en el derecho penal. Para demostrar esto me usaré como ejemplo:
¿Por qué estarían tan convencidos de tales cosas? Porque son explicaciones sencillas que se ajustan a su idea preconcebida (creo yo que todos pecamos de esto, en un momento u otro). Es un ejercicio mucho más fácil que considerar lo compleja que puede llegar a ser la realidad, me explico:
¿Pero cómo es posible, si en otras comunidades dicen tener pruebas de que soy o fui chavista?
¿Y qué hay de tu verificado autoritarismo en /mexico4T?

La razón detrás de /mexico4T:

Para la sorpresa de muchos aquí: encontrar verdadera crítica. He encontrado crítica valiosa de usuarios que comulgan con la 4T (más por chat que por propias publicaciones en mi subreddit, lamentablemente) y que creen que López Obrador está genuinamente tratando de impulsar un cambio. Esa poca actividad, en algunos días, la aprecio más que lo que pueda hallar aquí con pinzas, luego de navegar una toxicidad cuasi incesante y que nos trae la mayor parte del tiempo lenguaje soez, contenido de bajo esfuerzo, insultos y pseudo discusiones de temas instrascendentes derivados de sesgo fuerte, como por ejemplo, y en mi opinión:

Entiendo a quienes sí crean que estos temas son relevantes, pero no comparto esa opinión y creo que nadie merece ser acusado de una plétora de cosas solo por manifestarlo.

Quién soy, mis disculpas y mi propuesta

Soy un mexicano nacido en el extranjero, que votó por Anaya en la elección presidencial (porque aparecieron nexos leves entre MORENA y el chavismo durante la campaña) y que trabaja en el sector privado pagando mis debidos impuestos, como debe ser.
Soy moderador que fui altamente impopular en /vzla por ser severo en la aplicación de las reglas, por lo que de algunos usuarios adversos oirán virtualmente cualquier cosa de mí. De los moderadores de /vzla, escucharán otras opiniones, claro está.
Soy miembro de México Libre, sí, en serio, porque la administración Calderón fue ejemplar en el manejo de la recesión de 2008 y porque su liderazgo en la OEA, con la doctrina Castañeda, fue punta de lanza para declarar a la Venezuela de Maduro (y de Chávez) como el gobierno criminal que es. No obstante (y gracias a mexico4T) luego de estudiar los números de criminalidad histórica en México y algunos escándalos que desconocía (como el de la Tuta reuniéndose con el enviado de Luisa María Calderón) estoy teniendo dudas serias sobre los líderes del movimiento y considerando seriamente salirme, muy especialmente también, luego de conocer y hacerle seguimiento al juicio que enfrenta García Luna en Nueva York; no luce para nada bien ese tema para él ni para Felipe Calderón, ciertamente.
Mi postura frente a la 4T
Genuinamente creo que es bien intencionada y que quienes le critican absolutamente todo: o no comprenden la complejidad de gobernar y el roce inevitable de la necesidad de establecer prioridades, o están demasiado sesgados para tan siquiera considerar las buenas gestiones que se han adelantado y que comenté en esta publicación. En todo caso, y como he dicho repetidas veces (aunque algunos usuarios opten por ignorarlo siempre) siento que la administración está destinada a fracasar si no muestra avances claros y duros en los dos principales problemas de los mexicanos: la criminalidad rampante desde la administración Calderón, y el pobre desempeño económico que vimos antes de la pandemia. Tengo dudas sobre si este gobierno es descaramente criminal como otros, pero también tengo miedo sobre su potencial para la cruda incompetencia.

Mis disculpas

Me disculpo por mi actitud. En ocasiones fui reaccionario y activamente comenté de forma filosa solo para generar reacción. Explico que parte de mi actuar resultó del agite que genera ser constante objeto de agresiones e insultos; entiendo, no obstante, que ello no lo justifica y me avergüenzo de la actitud tomada. No lo volveré a hacer. Ojalá puedan aceptármela.
Me disculpo abiertamente con _puto_el_que_lo_lea_, en realidad, no celebro tu retiro aunque lo entiendo.

Mi propuesta

Comencemos de nuevo. Dejemos los insultos y las ideas preconcebidas. Ayúdenme a entender mejor a México. Seamos una comunidad amena de nuevo. Entiendo que la moderación de este lugar es una tarea enorme, así que los usuarios debemos colaborar si de verdad queremos discusiones valiosas.
Quitaré las suspensiones de mexico4T, abriré el subreddit y trataré de gestionarlo de nuevo con el flujo de usuarios difíciles. Pero, más que nada, trataré de participar aquí sin mala actitud y tratando de entender sus posturas.
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Estoy abierto a todas sus preguntas y a abordar cualquier tema que haya olvidado.
Atentamente,
strCdo
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2020.06.23 05:22 Beginning_Beginning Drug trafficking as a convenient excuse for intervention in Venezuela: A follow-up

A little more than 2 weeks ago I wrote a post titled "Drug trafficking as a convenient excuse for intervention in Venezuela" which was a reply to an accusation by New York's district attorney of the Venezuelan government being a narco-terrorist organization that wanted to flood the United States with cocaine "in order to undermine the health and wellbeing" of that country. That's pretty much the excuse under which the Trump administration has justified a number of actions against the government, including political and economic sanctions, threats of invasion, etc.
https://www.reddit.com/venezuela/comments/gw7hek/drug_trafficking_as_a_convenient_excuse_fo
I based my case on three different, well-documented arguments:
1) Venezuela isn't flooding the US with drugs. Not only does the drug - mainly cocaine - that goes to the US from Venezuela is but a fraction of the total, drug shipments from Venezuela have actually been steadily decreasing in the past years.
2) Neighboring countries, and more specifically Colombia, are actually bigger narco-states and have state sponsored/sheltered apparati behind drug-trafficking. I, as a matter of anecdotes, mentioned news pieces just from the last couple of months including
3) Finally, that the US government isn't truly concerned either with drugs undermining the health and wellbeing of the nation. I specifically mentioned the lose morals of hard-core Republican congresspeople who are constantly changing their stance of the legality and morality of marihuana legalization once they realize that recreational marihuana can help states close budget holes. I also mentioned the Slacker family, some true drug barons that have made billions of dollars by inundating the US with opioids.
I finally wrote some finals comments regarding the war of drugs (my personal take is that it should be completely dismantled).
I received several criticisms from some of the regular posters of this sub. Some like u/red-ish went to the source of my claims, for instance they mentioned that, with regards of former ambassador Sanclemente:
[I] omitted some key details there, like the fact that the owner was the family of the ambassador not the ambassador himself, and that the farm was rented to some other people.
Several of the criticisms were directed to make a distiction between the Colombian government and the Venezuelan one, in the sense that Colombia cannot be considered a narco-state because they actually worked towards ending drug-trafficking whereas the Venezuelan government was actually part of big drug cartel.
For instance u/re-dish said that:
The fact remains, the old [Colombian drug] leaders are all imprisoned, this is something that you will see when a government is actively going after the cartels.
And u/endospores wrote that:
the army and the madurismo are heavily involved in cocaine trafficking despite years of evidence of it and two nephews of cilia getting caught red handed with almost a ton of cocaine worth around 67 million dollars.
Finally, my position on the drug on wars was basically equated to crime apologetics.
This is a follow-up. Some of the things that have come to light in just three weeks is trully fascinanting and some of the people that read the previous post might find interest in it. It will also serve as a response to some of the criticisms I got previously and directly refutes many of points made by those who wrote them.
What's happened in the last 18 days
In these past few days, many reports that have been coming out since late April have been gaining strength within the public opinion. Yesterday, El Espectador columnist Yohir Akerman wrote a opion piece titled "El que la descubre la paga". It begins with the following sentence: "By now it is clear why Ivan Duque's Government's drug combat policy has failed" and he goes on to expand on the current status of several of the many drug-related scandals that have been tarnishing the government's image (some of which I precisely wrote about):
La Dirección Especializada de Extinción del Derecho de Dominio de la Fiscalía impuso medidas cautelares de embargo, secuestro y suspensión del poder dispositivo sobre cuatro predios y dos vehículos de la sociedad Las Colinas de Guasca, de la que hizo parte y fue representante legal el señor embajador Sanclemente Alzate.
El escándalo pasó desapercibido y todo se desactivó con una simple renuncia al cargo.
So, it wasn't just that the farm where they found the Ambassador's drug lab belonged to his family and it was rented to someone else. The prosecutors actually seized and embargoed four different properties and two vehicles from a business partnership called Las Colinas del Guasca, of which ex-ambassador Sanclemente Alzate acted as legal representative. Apparently the entire scandal has gone away with him resigning from his post.
The article also reads that:
Mientras la investigación ya tiene capturados a los agentes de la Dijín que interceptaron legalmente al Ñeñe y a su hermano, a los mencionados en el escándalo no les ha pasado nada.
In the story dealing with the presidential bid bolstered by drug money, a judged actually ordered the intelligence officers that incercepted the incriminating calls to be captured and are currently in jail whereas the drug dealers are roaming free.
https://www.elespectador.com/opinion/el-que-la-descubre-la-paga/
But besides those stories I wrote about a new batch of investigative reports have come out in the last days. We learned, for instance, that Marta Lucía Ramirez had a brother that went to jail for trafficking heroine to the US and she paid a 150000 USD bond and that was kept secret to most everyone, including president Duque. We also learned that her niece's - which is more like an adopted daugter - husband spent five years in jail for the "falsos positivos" scandal: During the Uribe years, Colombian military officers and soldiers killed, as part of a widespread policy innocent people - mainly poor peasants - and made them pass as guerrilla fighters in order to cook numbers and obtain military benefits. Those pesky nephews and brothers...
https://www.semana.com/nacion/articulo/marta-lucia-ramirez-pago-fianza-de-su-hermano-por-narcotrafico/679468
https://www.elespectador.com/noticias/politica/duque-no-sabia-marta-lucia-ramirez-sobre-condena-de-su-hermano/
https://voragine.co/una-ejecucion-extrajudicial-enloda-a-la-familia-de-marta-lucia-ramirez/
But the most striking report came from Insight Crime, a foundation dedicated to investigating organized crimed in Latin America and the Caribbean. Insight Crime's co-founder Jeremy McDermott, who is an ex-officer of the British Army and former BBC correspondant in Colombia. He had been working for some time on what he calls the "invisible drug traffickers"
InSight Crime has long believed that behind every famous drug trafficker, there have been many “invisibles.” Rather than dressing in alligator boots, sporting gold chains and gold-plated pistols, these drug traffickers have shunned ostentation and the limelight. They act like legitimate businessmen. Because the drug trade needs protectors, with high profits and untrustworthy participants, every invisible needs a “visible” to ensure that agreements are respected and debts are paid.
Pablo Escobar was the ultimate visible trafficker, becoming a member of Colombia’s congress, opening his vast estate Hacienda Nápoles to the public and populating it with exotic wildlife. Yet when Escobar fell, dozens of invisibles remained and many, like Memo Fantasma, survive to this day.
https://www.insightcrime.org/investigations/the-invisibles-of-the-drug-world/
This should give a little insight on u/re-dish's idea "that the old [Colombian drug] leaders are all imprisoned". If any of you have time to read the entire report go ahead and do it, it's quite long but it plays like a real-life detective story and it's absolutly fascinating. Insight Crime established that Memo Fantasma is another alias for Sebastián Colmenares, a high-profile paramilitary leader co-founder of the most powerful paramilitary organization in the 1990's and 2000's and one of the biggest drug-lords on the history of Colombia, up there with Pablo Escobar, the Rodriguez Orejuela brothers, el Loco Barrera and Don Berna. He must have been a truly important figure within that world because he was one of the signatories of the Unity for Peace Agreement, along with the Castaño brothers, Don Berna, Macaco, Pablo Sevillano... the heavy-hitters of drug-trafficking and paramilitarism in Colombia. And yet, nobody knew the guy's real identity and there weren't any attempts to capture him despite him never demovilizing.
Insight Crime found out, among other things:
I) That Memo Fantasma had been trafficking since the early nineties within the Medellin Cartel during the times of Pablo Escobar, then through Oficina de Envigado and with the support of the paramalitaries and his network of Mexican contacts.
II) That he is co-responsible for the deaths of tens of thousands massacred as part of the expansion of paramilitarism (yes, tens of thousands of people murdered).
III) That he had "high-level protection, had penetrated elements of the Colombian police and might even have been a US informant":
...he was known as a vicious little shit and was a friend of Rogelio’s [real name Carlos Mario Aguilar] of the Oficina de Envigado, who ran the Medellín sicario [hitman] networks and who had several policemen on his payroll, including General Mauricio Santoyo.”
General Santoyo, who is mentioned and thanked in President Alvaro Uribe’s autobiography, “No Lost Causes” (“No hay causa perdida”), was one of the stars of the police force and head of President Uribe’s security detail. His relationship with Rogelio is well documented and was confirmed to us by Rogelio’s sister, Cruz Elena Aguilar.
Indeed, it was Rogelio’s testimony to US authorities that led Santoyo to plead guilty to charges of working with the paramilitaries after being extradited to the United States in 2012. Having a top policeman on the payroll showed the power of the Oficina de Envigado, the successor to the Medellín Cartel, that Rogelio ran under the orders of Diego Murillo, alias “Don Berna.” And the Oficina was Memo’s criminal home, perhaps even more so than the paramilitaries.
IV) That he has laundered (and continues to launder) countless millions of USD through a network of companies owned by a number of figure-heads in Colombia and Spain (that they know of) from his own businesses and presumably from other important figures.
V) That the US government has known all about this guy from a long time ago:
What we know is that there was an open case file on Memo in the United States. We have the name of a prosecutor who was looking into him and the name of a possible DEA case officer. Requests for comment were not answered and another US source stated that the files had been sealed and were classified.
...
Bonnie Klapper, a former assistant US attorney who specialized in drug prosecutions and is now a noted defense attorney, has seen both sides of the US justice system and its interactions with the drug world and its informers. While she had no specific knowledge of Guillermo Acevedo or Memo Fantasma and she thinks no formal indictment against Acevedo exists, he could have worked as an informant and therefore received lenient treatment.
Asked how tolerant US agencies would be to criminal activity by a source, she replied: “Quite tolerant, so long as the source is working at the agency’s direction.”
Asked if it is usual for a drug trafficker to get a complete pass, Klapper replied, “not very common, but not unheard of. I have represented two individuals in the past eight years who were given a pass. However, neither had a high profile nor was there any violence. They weren’t given a pass because their cooperation was so great — though it was excellent — but simply because the agents were not interested in pursuing the case — not big enough, conduct was old, etc. — or the informants just slipped through the cracks and the statute ran out.”
Oh... and the cherry on top:
V) That he is an associate of Vice-president Marta Lucía Ramirez's husband (actually with herself because she has majoritary stake in the company that has dealings with Memo Fantasma). In fact, an informant of Insight Crime told them that:
“They moved to Bogotá. We heard that when one of the family members boasted that Memo and Catalina had got their two daughters into the Nueva Granada school, thanks to a recommendation from Marta Lucía Ramírez.”
There's a really strange turn to the story. McDermott tells us that he went to Madrid to confront Guillermo León Acevedo Giraldo - the real name of Memo Fantasma - or or at least to deliver a letter laying out the story and giving him the right to reply. The day after he spoke to Memo Fantasma he flew to Colombia and upon arriving he turned on the phone:
There I found a message from Vice President Marta Lucía Ramírez saying that we needed to talk. This could not be a coincidence. When we got on the phone, she got right to the point.
“I know what story you are working on,” she said.
Now at any one time, InSight Crime is working on a dozen different investigations, but I have found it is usually better to be direct with vice presidents.
“Who told you?” I asked.
“A source in Washington,” she replied.
Since then, things have continued to pile up.
Again, this is from the last three weeks. It's ridiculous to see the extent and ramifications of the narcoparamilitary state in Colombia and how it has permeated all branches of the government. Insight Crime's research confirms my originally thesis that narcotraffic is used discretionarily by the US government to punish any given party that doesn't play along.
Now, let's put aside Memo Fantasma and his criminal network and actions (which go on today, Insight Crime contacted Spanish authorities and they told him the guy was on their radar because he was buying properties from known Colombian money launderers) and its relation with the US government. Also let's agree for the sake of discussion that Maduro and his government are in fact a big organized drug-trafficking operation. How can you explain the "drug-traffic is illegal and a crime and it has to be punished" narrative that I was replied with in my previous post when Bolton in his book says negotiation was always on the table and that corruption and drug-trafficking charges could simply be put aside as long Maduro was ousted?
Muchas figuras importantes del régimen eran corruptas, se beneficiaban del narcotráfico, por ejemplo, y su récord de respeto de los derechos humanos era todo menos ejemplar. Pero yo estaba convencido que era mejor tragarse unos sapos para tumbar el régimen y liberar a los venezolanos que pararse en unos “principios” que los mantenía oprimidos, y con Cuba y Rusia mandando adentro.
https://lasillavacia.com/trump-queria-salida-militar-y-petroleo-venezuela-dice-bolton-77205
In fact, the recent Axios report reads that they are negotiating with Diosdado Cabello - "an alledged druglord" in the words of the report - and that the "Trump administration officials view Cabello as an important power broker, and some say the Venezuelan opposition's April 30 uprising would have succeeded if Cabello had been involved".
https://www.axios.com/scoop-inside-trumps-naval-blockade-obsession-555166b0-06f9-494c-b9fb-9577a589e2ac.html
The Guardian reports that "Some Trump officials reportedly considered that a positive sign suggesting Maduro’s circle was 'gradually cracking'", but I assume that if the expected Cabello to participate in the uprising one would presume that he would receive some benefits or maintain some participation in the new government. So are they explicitly accepting that they don't care about the help of "an alledged druglord" that is part of Maduro's bigger drug ring?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/aug/21/venezuelan-leader-nicolas-maduro-confirms-months-of-secret-us-talks
So it was never really about the drugs: Drug charges stick or are forgotten depending on the interests of the US administration. It is as I've titled my posts: Drug trafficking as a convenient excuse for intervention in Venezuela (and elsewhere).
By the way, Bolton has told us what we already suspected (and which my fellow posters vehemently denied): The White House saw Maduro as a threat to the US because of his ties with Russia, China and Cuba, and wanted to revive the Monroe Doctrine through a military intervention. He also wanted (wants) Venezuela's oil.
Also that former Colombia's Foreign Minister Carlos Holmes pushed for US military presence in Colombia; Duque went to the US to push against a negotiated solution with Venezuela and Ambassador Francisco Santos told Trump that Maduro was losing all the political that Santos believed he still had over Guaidó a couple of months before, something that apparently had a big impact on Trump. This coincides with Operación Gedeón - which I believe some people honestly believed could be a success - and with the Colombian speed boats that sailed by themselves to the Venezuelan coast.
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2018.01.01 16:58 isaacbonyuet Resumen del 2017 en este pequeño subreddit: top 16 redditors con más publicaciones, top 50 que más comentaron. Y las top 10 publicaciones y top 10 comentarios

Period: 364.24 days
Submissions Comments
Total 1000 24359
Rate (per day) 2.75 66.66
Unique Redditors 274 1650
Combined Score 41945 96172

Top Submitters' Top Submissions

  1. 3798 points, 95 submissions: Rev0d
    1. #URGENTE se acaban de llevar a Leopoldo de la casa. No sabemos donde está ni a dónde lo llevan. Maduro es responsable si algo le pasa. (121 points, 47 comments)
    2. Venezuelan president Maduro is "now a dictator" - White House (120 points, 30 comments)
    3. "No entiendo por qué la xenofobia hacia nosotros... (91 points, 58 comments)
    4. CONFIRMADO: Presidente de la Eurocámara pide congelar bienes de funcionarios del régimen e impide que viajen a la Unión Europea. (75 points, 9 comments)
    5. El SEBIN acaba de llevarse a Antonio Ledezma de su casa. 12:41 am (75 points, 41 comments)
    6. Twitter suspendió más de 180 cuentas de entes públicos, líderes y militantes chavistas. (72 points, 23 comments)
    7. President Trump: "We have troops all over the world in places that are very very far away. Venezuela is not very far away & the people are suffering" (70 points, 48 comments)
    8. Reportan que manifestantes quemaron la casa natal de Hugo Chávez (69 points, 36 comments)
    9. La Niña que busco el meme de Maduro en una foto oficial para la prensa (65 points, 17 comments)
    10. OAS head accuses Venezuela's Maduro of 'self-coup' (64 points, 0 comments)
  2. 2772 points, 61 submissions: geeeorge15
    1. Brazil suspends sales of tear gas to Venezuela (119 points, 15 comments)
    2. Venezolano encara al alcalde de Caracas Jorge Rodriguez en México: "Eres un asesino maldito. No tendrán paz" (119 points, 56 comments)
    3. Hice una tortilla tan española que me dijo que en España la pasan peor (106 points, 25 comments)
    4. "Hoy valiéndome de mi investidura de Presidente y del Art. 347, convoco a una Asamblea Nacional Constituyente" (87 points, 128 comments)
    5. Caracas, Mayo 2017. Foto por Braulio Jatar (86 points, 11 comments)
    6. Falleció Carlos José Moreno (19) por disparo en la cabeza mientras protestaba. QEPD (77 points, 7 comments)
    7. “Hoy cien niños iban a emigrar de Venezuela con rumbo a Perú para reunirse con sus padres. Régimen ordenó retenerlos en el aeropuerto y anular sus pasaportes. Familia de trabajador humanitario que organizó el viaje fue detenida como represalia.” (70 points, 41 comments)
    8. Militares en rebeldía atraparán y entregarán a políticos y partidarios del gobierno de Maduro solicitados por la justicia Internacional. (69 points, 69 comments)
    9. Diosdado Cabello pierde demanda por difamación contra The Wall Street Journal al ser señalado como líder de cartel de narcotráfico, y no podrá demandar de nuevo (68 points, 23 comments)
    10. "Me rindo, chao. Fue bonito mientras duró." (65 points, 4 comments)
  3. 2433 points, 65 submissions: callado
    1. As Venezuela Collapses, Children Are Dying of Hunger — For five months, The NYT tracked 21 public hospitals in Venezuela. Doctors are seeing record numbers of children with severe malnutrition. Hundreds have died (108 points, 18 comments)
    2. Tiran objetos a Maduro en acto en San Félix, Edo Bolívar (82 points, 53 comments)
    3. Pence accuses Venezuela government of abuse of power — "We need only look to the nation of Venezuela to see what happens when democracy is undermined. That once-rich nation's collapse into authoritarianism has pushed it into poverty and caused untold suffering for the Venezuelan people," he said (76 points, 26 comments)
    4. @realDonaldTrump: "Venezuela should allow Leopoldo Lopez, a political prisoner & husband of @liliantintori (just met w/ @marcorubio) out of prison immediately." (64 points, 80 comments)
    5. POTUS: "If the Maduro regime imposes its Constituent Assembly on July 30, the United States will take strong and swift economic actions" (64 points, 50 comments)
    6. IN THE SENATE OF THE UNITED STATES: A bill to provide humanitarian assistance for the Venezuelan people, to defend democratic governance and combat widespread public corruption in Venezuela, and for other purposes (56 points, 13 comments)
    7. Mi posición ante el país. Carta al Defensor del Pueblo "Te pido como hijo y en nombre de Venezuela, a la cual tu sirves, que reflexiones y hagas lo que tienes que hacer" dijo Yibram Saad, quien dice ser el hijo de Tarek William Saab (54 points, 62 comments)
    8. Leopoldo: ¡Sigamos en las calles hasta alcanzar nuestra libertad! (53 points, 49 comments)
    9. Mauricio Macri: “Basta de eufemismos, Venezuela no es una democracia” (46 points, 22 comments)
    10. Venezuela to go BANKRUPT in 48 hours triggering $60BILLION global financial crisis - The crisis came to light after it was revealed state owned firm PDVSA has not made a single debt payments to India's top oil producer ONGC for six months (46 points, 8 comments)
  4. 2398 points, 59 submissions: isaacbonyuet
    1. President of Venezuela 'pelted with eggs' as protesters fight back over food and medicine shortages (93 points, 15 comments)
    2. Make /vzla Great Again! (92 points, 32 comments)
    3. Tomás Rincón en el juego de la Champions (67 points, 0 comments)
    4. Prime Minister of Albania, Edi Rama: "Venezolanos: Albania los entiende y los apoya hoy 16J. Viva la libertad y la democracia. #SiSePuede" (63 points, 0 comments)
    5. Venezuelan demonstration in Santiago, Chile (63 points, 1 comment)
    6. Venezuela president says supporters will take up arms if government falls (62 points, 3 comments)
    7. Venezuelan demonstration in Monterrey, Mexico (62 points, 9 comments)
    8. Venezuelan demonstration in Barcelona, Spain (61 points, 7 comments)
    9. Venezuelan demonstration in Dublin, Ireland (61 points, 1 comment)
    10. Venezuelan demonstration in London, England (58 points, 1 comment)
  5. 1601 points, 42 submissions: x1498
    1. Venezolanas interrumpen ponencia y confrontan a Tarek William Saab en el Líbano: ¡Mi pueblo se muere, los están matando! (81 points, 33 comments)
    2. Petition to Cancel Australian Visas for Venezuelan Government Criminal Politicians and their Families (79 points, 27 comments)
    3. Fuente Oficial: España no reconocerá Asamblea Constituyente elegida hoy en Venezuela. (56 points, 7 comments)
    4. Luisa Ortega Díaz: Nicolás Maduro sería dueño de empresa mexicana contratada por el Estado venezolano para distribución de bolsas CLAP (54 points, 21 comments)
    5. Andrés Izarra admite que CNE manipuló cifras de la constituyente (53 points, 5 comments)
    6. Congresistas de Colombia y Chile denuncian a Maduro ante el Tribunal de La Haya (53 points, 19 comments)
    7. Venezuela increases internet censorship and surveillance in crisis (51 points, 25 comments)
    8. “Los terroristas están en Miraflores”, respondieron a periodista de VTV (50 points, 18 comments)
    9. Con 14 mil mesas es como que un carajo que hace cervezas artesanales salga y venda lo mismo que Polar pero sin la fábrica (46 points, 5 comments)
    10. Three Venezuelan doctors die at sea as they take supplies from Trinidad back to their patients... (44 points, 2 comments)
  6. 1252 points, 34 submissions: In_der_Tat
    1. Monumento a las víctimas del comunismo, Praga (62 points, 10 comments)
    2. Many Poor Venezuelans Are Too Hungry to Join Antigovernment Protests (59 points, 20 comments)
    3. Police officers committing theft (54 points, 10 comments)
    4. Venezuelan Government Turns Away 250 Tonnes of Medicines Offered as Donation by Brazil (52 points, 7 comments)
    5. Armoured anti-riot tear-gas grenade launcher vehicle running over protesters - Altamira, Caracas (51 points, 2 comments)
    6. Misión cumplida (49 points, 5 comments)
    7. La salida™ vista desde la estación espacial internacional (47 points, 6 comments)
    8. Balance apoyo/rechazo a fraudulenta constituyente. 52 países han hablado: 43 rechazos, 5 apoyos, 4 tibios (46 points, 43 comments)
    9. Socialistas chilenos impiden a venezolanos protestar ante su embajada (44 points, 16 comments)
    10. Venezuela: 'Government doesn't want you to see the mess it's in' BBC News (40 points, 1 comment)
  7. 1005 points, 27 submissions: OPUno
    1. María Corina Machado: “En Venezuela no hay un Gobierno, sino una mafia criminal” (68 points, 21 comments)
    2. ÚLTIMA HORA VIDEO - Senador Marco Rubio en el Senado de EE.UU.: "Diosdado Cabello, es mi perspectiva, es el Pablo Escobar de Venezuela" (60 points, 19 comments)
    3. Macron: "Venezuela es una dictadura que se mantiene en pie con el sufrimiento humano" (59 points, 13 comments)
    4. MUD hará primarias para escoger a candidatos para alcaldía de Ramo Verde (48 points, 10 comments)
    5. LO ÚLTIMO Congreso de Perú aprobó por mayoría absoluta expulsar al Embajador venezolano de Lima, Diego Molero Bellavia #9Ago (46 points, 4 comments)
    6. Si criticas ➡Y tú, ¿qué propones?. Si propones ➡ Sal y hazlo tú. Si lo haces ➡ Eres radical y antipolítico. Así funciona el chantaje (44 points, 26 comments)
    7. María Corina Machado: el país no entendería que la oposición vaya a elecciones regionales (42 points, 57 comments)
    8. Venezuelan ex-official detained in Spain on US warrant (40 points, 8 comments)
    9. MCM: Sanciones de EEUU son quirúrgicas y efectivas (39 points, 15 comments)
    10. Venezuela’s Secret Plot to Sell Banned Syrian Oil in U.S. Market (39 points, 6 comments)
  8. 955 points, 26 submissions: Gesco101
    1. La venezolana Deyna Castellanos fue elegida Jugadora del Año por la United Women's Soccer de los EEUU. (86 points, 6 comments)
    2. Salario mínimo en Venezuela es inferior por primera vez al de Cuba (61 points, 30 comments)
    3. Momento en el que un meme contra Maduro sale en cadena nacional (51 points, 10 comments)
    4. TSJ anula Ley que limita sueldos de altos funcionarios del Estado (51 points, 22 comments)
    5. Cadena perpetua para los sobrinos Flores pide Fiscalía de Nueva York (47 points, 24 comments)
    6. Pescaron a Jorge Arreaza y a sus secuaces en el Central Park en los Estados Unidos. (44 points, 17 comments)
    7. #Ahora A las 10 am han llegado embajadores de Italia, Alemania y Chile al Palacio Federal Legislativo para acompañar a la Asamblea Nacional (43 points, 13 comments)
    8. Maduro: Si tengo que convertirme en dictador para garantizar los precios, lo voy a hacer (41 points, 21 comments)
    9. Le pagaron Bs 10 mil de la pensión en billetes de a 10 y los rompió todos de la arrechera. (38 points, 46 comments)
    10. Cada vez es más difícil llevarse un huevo a la boca (35 points, 42 comments)
  9. 948 points, 26 submissions: vene1
    1. U.S. State Department says 'we condemn the lack of free and fair elections yesterday in Venezuela' (58 points, 25 comments)
    2. Venezuelan President Maduro is 'not just a bad leader, he is now a dictator' - White House. (57 points, 2 comments)
    3. 79% estaria de acuerdo con una intervencion extranjera, bueno, un momentico, esteee, no veo, revisen [VTV] (52 points, 16 comments)
    4. Joven desnudo sobre tanqueta recibiendo amor (47 points, 17 comments)
    5. "Gritaba y lloraba… tenía tanto miedo que me oriné": detenidos en protestas opositoras en Venezuela denuncian violaciones, golpizas y torturas - BBC Mundo (43 points, 34 comments)
    6. Fiscalía suiza congela 42 millones de dólares en cuentas de suegra de Haiman El Troudi (42 points, 10 comments)
    7. Costa Rica no reconoce y considera nulo e ilegítimo el proceso y resultados de la Asamblea Nacional Constituyente en Venezuela (41 points, 3 comments)
    8. How I Accidentally Tipped a Venezuelan Waiter $0.002 (40 points, 37 comments)
    9. 6 de cada 10 venezolanos cree que el 2017 fue el peor año de sus vidas (39 points, 22 comments)
    10. Avenida Fuerzas Armadas cambió su nombre a Paúl René Moreno Camacho, Maracaibo (39 points, 11 comments)
  10. 911 points, 2 submissions: Treeke
    1. Por cada upvote, voy a decir "Tibi mardita perra" y lo voy a subir a soundcloud (755 points, 93 comments)
    2. OP DELIVERS o BAMBOOZLE?! 720 "Tibi mardita perra", Ron y Bamboozle (156 points, 51 comments)
  11. 709 points, 19 submissions: pachecogeorge
    1. Destruyen estatua de Chavez en el Zulia (78 points, 30 comments)
    2. Marico el que lo lea (58 points, 9 comments)
    3. "Maduro Mamaguevo asesino bruja" en partido VEN-ALE SUB-20 (57 points, 8 comments)
    4. Lógica del socialismo (49 points, 53 comments)
    5. Venezolanos en Buenos Aires nos hacemos escuchar. #NoMasDictadura (49 points, 2 comments)
    6. Esta mañana en Hungría los venezolanos salieron a protestar y pidieron fin de la dictadura. (40 points, 19 comments)
    7. Magistrado: Constituyente sin referendo aniquila soberanía popular (35 points, 14 comments)
    8. Diputada del PSUV por el edo. Falcón llama a desconocer la ANC. (33 points, 11 comments)
    9. Fiscal Luisa Ortega Díaz rechaza Constituyente porque aceleraría la crisis (33 points, 14 comments)
    10. ÚLTIMA HORA Confirman fallecimiento de Hecder Lugo, joven herido gravemente en la cabeza ayer tras brutal represión en San Diego, Carabobo (33 points, 3 comments)
  12. 608 points, 18 submissions: Maintob
    1. Asamblea Constituyente de Venezuela disuelve la Asamblea Nacional (76 points, 27 comments)
    2. Asesinaron a joven de 20 años que participaba en una protesta en Valencia (41 points, 12 comments)
    3. Canadá impondrá sanciones contra presidente de Venezuela y decenas de altos funcionarios (38 points, 31 comments)
    4. Prohíben mostrar a mujeres en bikini en contraportadas de periódicos venezolanos (38 points, 99 comments)
    5. Confirmado el asesinato de Juan Lopez presidente de la FCU de la UPTJAA, fue tiroteado en plena Asamblea Estudiantil en El Tigre (37 points, 15 comments)
    6. Dementor se alimenta de venezolano y termina con depresión clínica (37 points, 2 comments)
    7. Correa se desmarca de Maduro y pide elecciones en Venezuela (33 points, 15 comments)
    8. Analysis Venezuelans are still demonstrating. What happens next for the dictatorship of President Nicolás Maduro? (30 points, 14 comments)
    9. PDVSA pierde $ 4.000 millones al año por subsidio de gas doméstico y para sector eléctrico (30 points, 20 comments)
    10. Asamblea Nacional Constituyente asume competencias legislativas del Parlamento controlado por la oposicion (29 points, 52 comments)
  13. 563 points, 7 submissions: hinoyminoy69
    1. I am a white 19 year old woman who is flying into Margarita Island all the way from California to catch some gnarly waves! I would love to meet up with some locals and learn the culture and nightlife of Venezuela! Would anyone like to show me around and just catch a few drinks? (159 points, 105 comments)
    2. Brigada 41 en Valencia se declara en Rebeldía (113 points, 115 comments)
    3. Always two there are. (96 points, 35 comments)
    4. Marco Rubio "The fact that Narco leader [Diosdado Cabello] annouced [the] military rebellion & government response shows who's in charge of security forces in Venezuela" (76 points, 8 comments)
    5. Buenas noches! (47 points, 55 comments)
    6. General Motors dice que Venezuela a expropiado su planta de automóviles (40 points, 14 comments)
    7. Cada vez que llegamos al front page.... (32 points, 60 comments)
  14. 471 points, 10 submissions: AndrewNaranja
    1. Venezuela le gana a Uruguay en penales y pasa a la Final del Mundial Sub-20. Su oponente sera el ganador de Italia vs. Inglaterra (93 points, 23 comments)
    2. Felices Fiestas para todos desde el equipo de moderación de vzla (73 points, 78 comments)
    3. Leopoldo Lopez - Hilo de Discusion (50 points, 126 comments)
    4. Venezuela le gana a Estados Unidos 2-1 y avanza a la Semifinal del Mundial Sub-20. Su oponente sera el ganador de Portugal vs. Uruguay (49 points, 8 comments)
    5. 19 de Abril - Hilo de Acontecimientos (44 points, 71 comments)
    6. Venezuela le gana a Mexico 1-0 y termina como lider del Grupo B del Mundial Sub-20. Su siguiente partido sera contra el mejor tercero del Grupo A, B o C el 30 de Mayo (38 points, 14 comments)
    7. Venezuela le gana a Japon 1-0 y pasa a los Cuartos de Final del Mudial Sub-20. Su oponente sera el ganador de Estados Unidos vs. Nueva Zelanda (36 points, 15 comments)
    8. Venezuela le gana a Vanuatu 7-0 y clasifica a Octavos de Final del Mundial Sub-20. Su siguiente partido sera contra Mexico el 26 de Mayo (33 points, 7 comments)
    9. Venezuela in the front page: Venezuela Protest YESTERDAY! (pics) (28 points, 18 comments)
    10. Desde dankmemes (27 points, 16 comments)
  15. 454 points, 10 submissions: bricateur
    1. Ya voté, ¿ustedes? (86 points, 192 comments)
    2. Tanqueta arrolla a grupo de manifestantes en El Rosal. Un joven aparentemente muerto (73 points, 13 comments)
    3. Fail - Graffiti "Maduro asesino de estudiantes" es grabado mientras Maduro maneja y posteriormente subido a Twitter (56 points, 22 comments)
    4. "Quisiera tener un puñal de acero para degollar un maldito guarimbero" canta la Fuerza Armada mientras entrenan (49 points, 20 comments)
    5. Capriles: me están notificando de una inhabilitación por 15 años (43 points, 74 comments)
    6. Asesinado joven de 17 años tras herida de bala en el pecho, informa Ramón Muchacho (41 points, 1 comment)
    7. Dudamel: ‘Contra la violencia y la represión alzo mi voz’ (28 points, 31 comments)
    8. Gente que odia a líder que nació de momento mediático ama a señor que nació de momento mediático (27 points, 32 comments)
    9. El Chiguire Bipolar: SE PRENDIÓ ESTA MIERDA (26 points, 5 comments)
    10. Antonio Ledezma regresa a arresto domiciliario (25 points, 25 comments)
  16. 453 points, 13 submissions: Rostacmac
    1. Ser militar, guardia o policía debería ser motivo de vergüenza, escarnio y asco. (60 points, 48 comments)
    2. #13May Quemaron la estatua de Chávez en Pariaguan Anzoategui (51 points, 7 comments)
    3. Avianca Suspende Operaciones en el país a partir del 16 de Agosto (42 points, 24 comments)
    4. Gritaron "Y va a caer" y los dejaron sin graduación en la Universidad Bolivariana (37 points, 18 comments)
    5. Vecinos trancan Av. Urdaneta. Cada día más cerca de Miraflores. (37 points, 1 comment)
    6. Pancarta con 3000 billetes de 2 Bs = 1 $ (31 points, 4 comments)
    7. Brazil declares top Venezuelan diplomat persona non-grata (30 points, 18 comments)
    8. El bitcoin a más de 1.000.000.000,00 Bs (30 points, 58 comments)
    9. Fiscalía inicia averiguación contra programa "Zurda Conducta" (30 points, 14 comments)
    10. "Salimos de Cuba buscando una mejor vida, pero en Venezuela descubrimos un verdadero infierno" (29 points, 9 comments)

Top Commenters

  1. ElTuco84 (2283 points, 472 comments)
  2. isaacbonyuet (2193 points, 618 comments)
  3. pachecogeorge (2161 points, 492 comments)
  4. fernst (2112 points, 348 comments)
  5. drchlt (1893 points, 253 comments)
  6. daguito81 (1615 points, 364 comments)
  7. Clemenx00 (1566 points, 214 comments)
  8. Rostacmac (1540 points, 289 comments)
  9. AgentD22 (1330 points, 251 comments)
  10. vene1 (1153 points, 302 comments)
  11. blublaman (1098 points, 174 comments)
  12. Radinax (1077 points, 192 comments)
  13. callado (1045 points, 288 comments)
  14. agmm15 (914 points, 134 comments)
  15. imbeciI (891 points, 302 comments)
  16. JusticeOwl (868 points, 116 comments)
  17. x1498 (793 points, 188 comments)
  18. pgcm_ (738 points, 192 comments)
  19. mkeuv (723 points, 159 comments)
  20. TryHardFapHarder (713 points, 132 comments)
  21. actitud_Caribe (711 points, 164 comments)
  22. depredator56 (710 points, 118 comments)
  23. tramitesVzla (657 points, 165 comments)
  24. In_der_Tat (639 points, 161 comments)
  25. geeeorge15 (639 points, 120 comments)
  26. Pastelitomaracucho (624 points, 154 comments)
  27. Quo210 (618 points, 127 comments)
  28. KnoT666 (575 points, 487 comments)
  29. gwynn- (574 points, 127 comments)
  30. shardikprime (567 points, 187 comments)
  31. manualex16 (567 points, 138 comments)
  32. AllGamer (560 points, 156 comments)
  33. blaughlin (545 points, 144 comments)
  34. HakimenLAN (531 points, 96 comments)
  35. witteng (518 points, 137 comments)
  36. josegv (514 points, 114 comments)
  37. Roraima19 (505 points, 93 comments)
  38. Programmer_Trainee (501 points, 153 comments)
  39. OPUno (494 points, 92 comments)
  40. Rev0d (464 points, 88 comments)
  41. sourrrpussy (452 points, 52 comments)
  42. ILL_PM_WHAT_YOU_ASK (438 points, 238 comments)
  43. L30R0D (425 points, 57 comments)
  44. jrodri86 (412 points, 68 comments)
  45. hypomaniac14 (405 points, 89 comments)
  46. andrew4d3 (400 points, 131 comments)
  47. EpicChiguire (397 points, 112 comments)
  48. maczirarg (396 points, 140 comments)
  49. macr1408 (388 points, 130 comments)
  50. MrBondurant (386 points, 80 comments)

Top Submissions

  1. Por cada upvote, voy a decir "Tibi mardita perra" y lo voy a subir a soundcloud by Treeke (755 points, 93 comments)
  2. Demosle Upvote para que cuando busquen Nicolas Maduro en Google, salga esto. by Flavorgsc (353 points, 31 comments)
  3. Empresa que hizo el conteo de votos en Venezuela denuncia "manipulación" en la elección de la Asamblea Nacional Constituyente - BBC Mundo by Katarsys (163 points, 104 comments)
  4. I am a white 19 year old woman who is flying into Margarita Island all the way from California to catch some gnarly waves! I would love to meet up with some locals and learn the culture and nightlife of Venezuela! Would anyone like to show me around and just catch a few drinks? by hinoyminoy69 (159 points, 105 comments)
  5. OP DELIVERS o BAMBOOZLE?! 720 "Tibi mardita perra", Ron y Bamboozle by Treeke (156 points, 51 comments)
  6. To all protestors. You should start carrying blankets, and here is why. by hopopo (149 points, 34 comments)
  7. TIL que la palabra “Marico” no hace referencia a un homosexual... by Caracucho (148 points, 59 comments)
  8. A fellow Redditor has being jailed by guillelon (132 points, 40 comments)
  9. My favorite part about this Subreddit is how people from first world countries come to tell us why we are in the situation we are in and how we are all right wing capitalists because we don’t like socialism. by wilmercazon (125 points, 147 comments)
  10. To Infinity and Beyond! by ImViTo (124 points, 19 comments)

Top Comments

  1. 109 points: santarrosa's comment in Opiniones sobre las puputov's?
  2. 83 points: davanger's comment in [desahogo] Se me está haciendo difícil adaptarme al extranjero...
  3. 78 points: Treeke's comment in Tibisay Lucena: El 30 de julio habrá elecciones para la Constituyente
  4. 77 points: AnneB18's comment in Tequeño Tuesday - Aca no se habla de politica
  5. 69 points: AbraKdabra's comment in Maduro: "En la Argentina me aman; si me lanzo a Presidente, gano con el 70%" [noticia de prensa arg en el sub argento]
  6. 63 points: IngloriousBlaster's comment in Lo más creepy que me ha ocurrido en la vida
  7. 63 points: Merweb0's comment in CANTV me arruina la vida.
  8. 59 points: SoyCantv's comment in Venezolano encara al alcalde de Caracas Jorge Rodriguez en México: "Eres un asesino maldito. No tendrán paz"
  9. 58 points: drchlt's comment in ojo si usas este sub seras baneado en /socialism
  10. 56 points: Cocodrool's comment in ojo si usas este sub seras baneado en /socialism
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2018.01.01 16:49 subreddit_stats Subreddit Stats: vzla top posts from 2016-12-31 to 2017-12-30 19:13 PDT

Period: 364.24 days
Submissions Comments
Total 1000 24359
Rate (per day) 2.75 66.66
Unique Redditors 274 1650
Combined Score 41945 96172

Top Submitters' Top Submissions

  1. 3798 points, 95 submissions: Rev0d
    1. #URGENTE se acaban de llevar a Leopoldo de la casa. No sabemos donde está ni a dónde lo llevan. Maduro es responsable si algo le pasa. (121 points, 47 comments)
    2. Venezuelan president Maduro is "now a dictator" - White House (120 points, 30 comments)
    3. "No entiendo por qué la xenofobia hacia nosotros... (91 points, 58 comments)
    4. CONFIRMADO: Presidente de la Eurocámara pide congelar bienes de funcionarios del régimen e impide que viajen a la Unión Europea. (75 points, 9 comments)
    5. El SEBIN acaba de llevarse a Antonio Ledezma de su casa. 12:41 am (75 points, 41 comments)
    6. Twitter suspendió más de 180 cuentas de entes públicos, líderes y militantes chavistas. (72 points, 23 comments)
    7. President Trump: "We have troops all over the world in places that are very very far away. Venezuela is not very far away & the people are suffering" (70 points, 48 comments)
    8. Reportan que manifestantes quemaron la casa natal de Hugo Chávez (69 points, 36 comments)
    9. La Niña que busco el meme de Maduro en una foto oficial para la prensa (65 points, 17 comments)
    10. OAS head accuses Venezuela's Maduro of 'self-coup' (64 points, 0 comments)
  2. 2772 points, 61 submissions: geeeorge15
    1. Brazil suspends sales of tear gas to Venezuela (119 points, 15 comments)
    2. Venezolano encara al alcalde de Caracas Jorge Rodriguez en México: "Eres un asesino maldito. No tendrán paz" (119 points, 56 comments)
    3. Hice una tortilla tan española que me dijo que en España la pasan peor (106 points, 25 comments)
    4. "Hoy valiéndome de mi investidura de Presidente y del Art. 347, convoco a una Asamblea Nacional Constituyente" (87 points, 128 comments)
    5. Caracas, Mayo 2017. Foto por Braulio Jatar (86 points, 11 comments)
    6. Falleció Carlos José Moreno (19) por disparo en la cabeza mientras protestaba. QEPD (77 points, 7 comments)
    7. “Hoy cien niños iban a emigrar de Venezuela con rumbo a Perú para reunirse con sus padres. Régimen ordenó retenerlos en el aeropuerto y anular sus pasaportes. Familia de trabajador humanitario que organizó el viaje fue detenida como represalia.” (70 points, 41 comments)
    8. Militares en rebeldía atraparán y entregarán a políticos y partidarios del gobierno de Maduro solicitados por la justicia Internacional. (69 points, 69 comments)
    9. Diosdado Cabello pierde demanda por difamación contra The Wall Street Journal al ser señalado como líder de cartel de narcotráfico, y no podrá demandar de nuevo (68 points, 23 comments)
    10. "Me rindo, chao. Fue bonito mientras duró." (65 points, 4 comments)
  3. 2433 points, 65 submissions: callado
    1. As Venezuela Collapses, Children Are Dying of Hunger — For five months, The NYT tracked 21 public hospitals in Venezuela. Doctors are seeing record numbers of children with severe malnutrition. Hundreds have died (108 points, 18 comments)
    2. Tiran objetos a Maduro en acto en San Félix, Edo Bolívar (82 points, 53 comments)
    3. Pence accuses Venezuela government of abuse of power — "We need only look to the nation of Venezuela to see what happens when democracy is undermined. That once-rich nation's collapse into authoritarianism has pushed it into poverty and caused untold suffering for the Venezuelan people," he said (76 points, 26 comments)
    4. @realDonaldTrump: "Venezuela should allow Leopoldo Lopez, a political prisoner & husband of @liliantintori (just met w/ @marcorubio) out of prison immediately." (64 points, 80 comments)
    5. POTUS: "If the Maduro regime imposes its Constituent Assembly on July 30, the United States will take strong and swift economic actions" (64 points, 50 comments)
    6. IN THE SENATE OF THE UNITED STATES: A bill to provide humanitarian assistance for the Venezuelan people, to defend democratic governance and combat widespread public corruption in Venezuela, and for other purposes (56 points, 13 comments)
    7. Mi posición ante el país. Carta al Defensor del Pueblo "Te pido como hijo y en nombre de Venezuela, a la cual tu sirves, que reflexiones y hagas lo que tienes que hacer" dijo Yibram Saad, quien dice ser el hijo de Tarek William Saab (54 points, 62 comments)
    8. Leopoldo: ¡Sigamos en las calles hasta alcanzar nuestra libertad! (53 points, 49 comments)
    9. Mauricio Macri: “Basta de eufemismos, Venezuela no es una democracia” (46 points, 22 comments)
    10. Venezuela to go BANKRUPT in 48 hours triggering $60BILLION global financial crisis - The crisis came to light after it was revealed state owned firm PDVSA has not made a single debt payments to India's top oil producer ONGC for six months (46 points, 8 comments)
  4. 2398 points, 59 submissions: isaacbonyuet
    1. President of Venezuela 'pelted with eggs' as protesters fight back over food and medicine shortages (93 points, 15 comments)
    2. Make /vzla Great Again! (92 points, 32 comments)
    3. Tomás Rincón en el juego de la Champions (67 points, 0 comments)
    4. Prime Minister of Albania, Edi Rama: "Venezolanos: Albania los entiende y los apoya hoy 16J. Viva la libertad y la democracia. #SiSePuede" (63 points, 0 comments)
    5. Venezuelan demonstration in Santiago, Chile (63 points, 1 comment)
    6. Venezuela president says supporters will take up arms if government falls (62 points, 3 comments)
    7. Venezuelan demonstration in Monterrey, Mexico (62 points, 9 comments)
    8. Venezuelan demonstration in Barcelona, Spain (61 points, 7 comments)
    9. Venezuelan demonstration in Dublin, Ireland (61 points, 1 comment)
    10. Venezuelan demonstration in London, England (58 points, 1 comment)
  5. 1601 points, 42 submissions: x1498
    1. Venezolanas interrumpen ponencia y confrontan a Tarek William Saab en el Líbano: ¡Mi pueblo se muere, los están matando! (81 points, 33 comments)
    2. Petition to Cancel Australian Visas for Venezuelan Government Criminal Politicians and their Families (79 points, 27 comments)
    3. Fuente Oficial: España no reconocerá Asamblea Constituyente elegida hoy en Venezuela. (56 points, 7 comments)
    4. Luisa Ortega Díaz: Nicolás Maduro sería dueño de empresa mexicana contratada por el Estado venezolano para distribución de bolsas CLAP (54 points, 21 comments)
    5. Andrés Izarra admite que CNE manipuló cifras de la constituyente (53 points, 5 comments)
    6. Congresistas de Colombia y Chile denuncian a Maduro ante el Tribunal de La Haya (53 points, 19 comments)
    7. Venezuela increases internet censorship and surveillance in crisis (51 points, 25 comments)
    8. “Los terroristas están en Miraflores”, respondieron a periodista de VTV (50 points, 18 comments)
    9. Con 14 mil mesas es como que un carajo que hace cervezas artesanales salga y venda lo mismo que Polar pero sin la fábrica (46 points, 5 comments)
    10. Three Venezuelan doctors die at sea as they take supplies from Trinidad back to their patients... (44 points, 2 comments)
  6. 1252 points, 34 submissions: In_der_Tat
    1. Monumento a las víctimas del comunismo, Praga (62 points, 10 comments)
    2. Many Poor Venezuelans Are Too Hungry to Join Antigovernment Protests (59 points, 20 comments)
    3. Police officers committing theft (54 points, 10 comments)
    4. Venezuelan Government Turns Away 250 Tonnes of Medicines Offered as Donation by Brazil (52 points, 7 comments)
    5. Armoured anti-riot tear-gas grenade launcher vehicle running over protesters - Altamira, Caracas (51 points, 2 comments)
    6. Misión cumplida (49 points, 5 comments)
    7. La salida™ vista desde la estación espacial internacional (47 points, 6 comments)
    8. Balance apoyo/rechazo a fraudulenta constituyente. 52 países han hablado: 43 rechazos, 5 apoyos, 4 tibios (46 points, 43 comments)
    9. Socialistas chilenos impiden a venezolanos protestar ante su embajada (44 points, 16 comments)
    10. Venezuela: 'Government doesn't want you to see the mess it's in' BBC News (40 points, 1 comment)
  7. 1005 points, 27 submissions: OPUno
    1. María Corina Machado: “En Venezuela no hay un Gobierno, sino una mafia criminal” (68 points, 21 comments)
    2. ÚLTIMA HORA VIDEO - Senador Marco Rubio en el Senado de EE.UU.: "Diosdado Cabello, es mi perspectiva, es el Pablo Escobar de Venezuela" (60 points, 19 comments)
    3. Macron: "Venezuela es una dictadura que se mantiene en pie con el sufrimiento humano" (59 points, 13 comments)
    4. MUD hará primarias para escoger a candidatos para alcaldía de Ramo Verde (48 points, 10 comments)
    5. LO ÚLTIMO Congreso de Perú aprobó por mayoría absoluta expulsar al Embajador venezolano de Lima, Diego Molero Bellavia #9Ago (46 points, 4 comments)
    6. Si criticas ➡Y tú, ¿qué propones?. Si propones ➡ Sal y hazlo tú. Si lo haces ➡ Eres radical y antipolítico. Así funciona el chantaje (44 points, 26 comments)
    7. María Corina Machado: el país no entendería que la oposición vaya a elecciones regionales (42 points, 57 comments)
    8. Venezuelan ex-official detained in Spain on US warrant (40 points, 8 comments)
    9. MCM: Sanciones de EEUU son quirúrgicas y efectivas (39 points, 15 comments)
    10. Venezuela’s Secret Plot to Sell Banned Syrian Oil in U.S. Market (39 points, 6 comments)
  8. 955 points, 26 submissions: Gesco101
    1. La venezolana Deyna Castellanos fue elegida Jugadora del Año por la United Women's Soccer de los EEUU. (86 points, 6 comments)
    2. Salario mínimo en Venezuela es inferior por primera vez al de Cuba (61 points, 30 comments)
    3. Momento en el que un meme contra Maduro sale en cadena nacional (51 points, 10 comments)
    4. TSJ anula Ley que limita sueldos de altos funcionarios del Estado (51 points, 22 comments)
    5. Cadena perpetua para los sobrinos Flores pide Fiscalía de Nueva York (47 points, 24 comments)
    6. Pescaron a Jorge Arreaza y a sus secuaces en el Central Park en los Estados Unidos. (44 points, 17 comments)
    7. #Ahora A las 10 am han llegado embajadores de Italia, Alemania y Chile al Palacio Federal Legislativo para acompañar a la Asamblea Nacional (43 points, 13 comments)
    8. Maduro: Si tengo que convertirme en dictador para garantizar los precios, lo voy a hacer (41 points, 21 comments)
    9. Le pagaron Bs 10 mil de la pensión en billetes de a 10 y los rompió todos de la arrechera. (38 points, 46 comments)
    10. Cada vez es más difícil llevarse un huevo a la boca (35 points, 42 comments)
  9. 948 points, 26 submissions: vene1
    1. U.S. State Department says 'we condemn the lack of free and fair elections yesterday in Venezuela' (58 points, 25 comments)
    2. Venezuelan President Maduro is 'not just a bad leader, he is now a dictator' - White House. (57 points, 2 comments)
    3. 79% estaria de acuerdo con una intervencion extranjera, bueno, un momentico, esteee, no veo, revisen [VTV] (52 points, 16 comments)
    4. Joven desnudo sobre tanqueta recibiendo amor (47 points, 17 comments)
    5. "Gritaba y lloraba… tenía tanto miedo que me oriné": detenidos en protestas opositoras en Venezuela denuncian violaciones, golpizas y torturas - BBC Mundo (43 points, 34 comments)
    6. Fiscalía suiza congela 42 millones de dólares en cuentas de suegra de Haiman El Troudi (42 points, 10 comments)
    7. Costa Rica no reconoce y considera nulo e ilegítimo el proceso y resultados de la Asamblea Nacional Constituyente en Venezuela (41 points, 3 comments)
    8. How I Accidentally Tipped a Venezuelan Waiter $0.002 (40 points, 37 comments)
    9. 6 de cada 10 venezolanos cree que el 2017 fue el peor año de sus vidas (39 points, 22 comments)
    10. Avenida Fuerzas Armadas cambió su nombre a Paúl René Moreno Camacho, Maracaibo (39 points, 11 comments)
  10. 911 points, 2 submissions: Treeke
    1. Por cada upvote, voy a decir "Tibi mardita perra" y lo voy a subir a soundcloud (755 points, 93 comments)
    2. OP DELIVERS o BAMBOOZLE?! 720 "Tibi mardita perra", Ron y Bamboozle (156 points, 51 comments)
  11. 709 points, 19 submissions: pachecogeorge
    1. Destruyen estatua de Chavez en el Zulia (78 points, 30 comments)
    2. Marico el que lo lea (58 points, 9 comments)
    3. "Maduro Mamaguevo asesino bruja" en partido VEN-ALE SUB-20 (57 points, 8 comments)
    4. Lógica del socialismo (49 points, 53 comments)
    5. Venezolanos en Buenos Aires nos hacemos escuchar. #NoMasDictadura (49 points, 2 comments)
    6. Esta mañana en Hungría los venezolanos salieron a protestar y pidieron fin de la dictadura. (40 points, 19 comments)
    7. Magistrado: Constituyente sin referendo aniquila soberanía popular (35 points, 14 comments)
    8. Diputada del PSUV por el edo. Falcón llama a desconocer la ANC. (33 points, 11 comments)
    9. Fiscal Luisa Ortega Díaz rechaza Constituyente porque aceleraría la crisis (33 points, 14 comments)
    10. ÚLTIMA HORA Confirman fallecimiento de Hecder Lugo, joven herido gravemente en la cabeza ayer tras brutal represión en San Diego, Carabobo (33 points, 3 comments)
  12. 608 points, 18 submissions: Maintob
    1. Asamblea Constituyente de Venezuela disuelve la Asamblea Nacional (76 points, 27 comments)
    2. Asesinaron a joven de 20 años que participaba en una protesta en Valencia (41 points, 12 comments)
    3. Canadá impondrá sanciones contra presidente de Venezuela y decenas de altos funcionarios (38 points, 31 comments)
    4. Prohíben mostrar a mujeres en bikini en contraportadas de periódicos venezolanos (38 points, 99 comments)
    5. Confirmado el asesinato de Juan Lopez presidente de la FCU de la UPTJAA, fue tiroteado en plena Asamblea Estudiantil en El Tigre (37 points, 15 comments)
    6. Dementor se alimenta de venezolano y termina con depresión clínica (37 points, 2 comments)
    7. Correa se desmarca de Maduro y pide elecciones en Venezuela (33 points, 15 comments)
    8. Analysis Venezuelans are still demonstrating. What happens next for the dictatorship of President Nicolás Maduro? (30 points, 14 comments)
    9. PDVSA pierde $ 4.000 millones al año por subsidio de gas doméstico y para sector eléctrico (30 points, 20 comments)
    10. Asamblea Nacional Constituyente asume competencias legislativas del Parlamento controlado por la oposicion (29 points, 52 comments)
  13. 563 points, 7 submissions: hinoyminoy69
    1. I am a white 19 year old woman who is flying into Margarita Island all the way from California to catch some gnarly waves! I would love to meet up with some locals and learn the culture and nightlife of Venezuela! Would anyone like to show me around and just catch a few drinks? (159 points, 105 comments)
    2. Brigada 41 en Valencia se declara en Rebeldía (113 points, 115 comments)
    3. Always two there are. (96 points, 35 comments)
    4. Marco Rubio "The fact that Narco leader [Diosdado Cabello] annouced [the] military rebellion & government response shows who's in charge of security forces in Venezuela" (76 points, 8 comments)
    5. Buenas noches! (47 points, 55 comments)
    6. General Motors dice que Venezuela a expropiado su planta de automóviles (40 points, 14 comments)
    7. Cada vez que llegamos al front page.... (32 points, 60 comments)
  14. 471 points, 10 submissions: AndrewNaranja
    1. Venezuela le gana a Uruguay en penales y pasa a la Final del Mundial Sub-20. Su oponente sera el ganador de Italia vs. Inglaterra (93 points, 23 comments)
    2. Felices Fiestas para todos desde el equipo de moderación de vzla (73 points, 78 comments)
    3. Leopoldo Lopez - Hilo de Discusion (50 points, 126 comments)
    4. Venezuela le gana a Estados Unidos 2-1 y avanza a la Semifinal del Mundial Sub-20. Su oponente sera el ganador de Portugal vs. Uruguay (49 points, 8 comments)
    5. 19 de Abril - Hilo de Acontecimientos (44 points, 71 comments)
    6. Venezuela le gana a Mexico 1-0 y termina como lider del Grupo B del Mundial Sub-20. Su siguiente partido sera contra el mejor tercero del Grupo A, B o C el 30 de Mayo (38 points, 14 comments)
    7. Venezuela le gana a Japon 1-0 y pasa a los Cuartos de Final del Mudial Sub-20. Su oponente sera el ganador de Estados Unidos vs. Nueva Zelanda (36 points, 15 comments)
    8. Venezuela le gana a Vanuatu 7-0 y clasifica a Octavos de Final del Mundial Sub-20. Su siguiente partido sera contra Mexico el 26 de Mayo (33 points, 7 comments)
    9. Venezuela in the front page: Venezuela Protest YESTERDAY! (pics) (28 points, 18 comments)
    10. Desde dankmemes (27 points, 16 comments)
  15. 454 points, 10 submissions: bricateur
    1. Ya voté, ¿ustedes? (86 points, 192 comments)
    2. Tanqueta arrolla a grupo de manifestantes en El Rosal. Un joven aparentemente muerto (73 points, 13 comments)
    3. Fail - Graffiti "Maduro asesino de estudiantes" es grabado mientras Maduro maneja y posteriormente subido a Twitter (56 points, 22 comments)
    4. "Quisiera tener un puñal de acero para degollar un maldito guarimbero" canta la Fuerza Armada mientras entrenan (49 points, 20 comments)
    5. Capriles: me están notificando de una inhabilitación por 15 años (43 points, 74 comments)
    6. Asesinado joven de 17 años tras herida de bala en el pecho, informa Ramón Muchacho (41 points, 1 comment)
    7. Dudamel: ‘Contra la violencia y la represión alzo mi voz’ (28 points, 31 comments)
    8. Gente que odia a líder que nació de momento mediático ama a señor que nació de momento mediático (27 points, 32 comments)
    9. El Chiguire Bipolar: SE PRENDIÓ ESTA MIERDA (26 points, 5 comments)
    10. Antonio Ledezma regresa a arresto domiciliario (25 points, 25 comments)
  16. 453 points, 13 submissions: Rostacmac
    1. Ser militar, guardia o policía debería ser motivo de vergüenza, escarnio y asco. (60 points, 48 comments)
    2. #13May Quemaron la estatua de Chávez en Pariaguan Anzoategui (51 points, 7 comments)
    3. Avianca Suspende Operaciones en el país a partir del 16 de Agosto (42 points, 24 comments)
    4. Gritaron "Y va a caer" y los dejaron sin graduación en la Universidad Bolivariana (37 points, 18 comments)
    5. Vecinos trancan Av. Urdaneta. Cada día más cerca de Miraflores. (37 points, 1 comment)
    6. Pancarta con 3000 billetes de 2 Bs = 1 $ (31 points, 4 comments)
    7. Brazil declares top Venezuelan diplomat persona non-grata (30 points, 18 comments)
    8. El bitcoin a más de 1.000.000.000,00 Bs (30 points, 58 comments)
    9. Fiscalía inicia averiguación contra programa "Zurda Conducta" (30 points, 14 comments)
    10. "Salimos de Cuba buscando una mejor vida, pero en Venezuela descubrimos un verdadero infierno" (29 points, 9 comments)

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2014.09.22 17:13 dapf Como el gobierno comprueba que la cuenta de Ma. Gabriela Chavez es falsa

Me imagino que ya han visto el video donde denuncian que la hija del Gigante tiene una gigantesca cuenta el dolares del cochino imperio:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQc2l72za8U
Lo que a lo mejor no han visto es la pagina donde la agencia de propaganda del gobierno desmiente la supuesta acusacion:
http://www.sibci.gob.ve/2014/09/tv-mayamera-usa-pruebas-falsas-contra-familia-chavez/
Alli dicen que el capitan saco la imagen del recibo de una pagina de memes:
http://frabz.com/gen/fake-atm-receipt-generator.php
Si se dan cuenta, la imagen que presentan en el sito de memes esta clarita, mientras que la que presentan en el video tiene la tipica region oscura que sale cuando uno usa un scanner, y la "caja" clara a los lados cuando se usa deteccion automatica de tamaño de la imagen (ademas que la imagen el meme es de un recibo de Albuquerque y la del video es de Nueva York:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQc2l72za8U#t=165
Me imagino que los argumentos pueden ir de lado y lado, los chavistas diran que la imagen del video fue fotochopeada para que parezca mas real, los de la oposicion que la gente del gobierno publico el meme en esa pagina para dementir la denuncia.
Yo por mi lado solo pienso: Que clase de idiota va a usar un meme publico como prueba? No es mejor escanear un recibo real y luego usar fotochop para alterarlo?
Pienso que lo absurdo del argumento del gobierno es lo que le da mas validez a la denuncia?
Que piensan? Hay expertos en fotochop que puedan comentar al respecto?
EDIT: La acusacion es falsa, ver: http://www.reddit.com/vzla/comments/2h4rsz/como_el_gobierno_comprueba_que_la_cuenta_de_ma/ckpjtlu
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